Comments on: Guitar Zero – U R 2 out of Touch http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/ Games from a Parental Perspective Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:03:22 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Steve S http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-26432 Steve S Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:47:45 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-26432 Going back to an earlier point, shooting games do very little, if anything, to teach actual shooting skills. I suppose it is possible that they may help with a proper sight picture, but they don't do anything to simulate the weight and feel of a firearm, nor do they do anything in terms of recoil. The dexterity and muscle memory required for shooting is nothing like what is required for shooting. I suppose they may teach something of tactics, but even the most realistic games are trying to teach something fun, as opposed to real. Going back to an earlier point, shooting games do very little, if anything, to teach actual shooting skills. I suppose it is possible that they may help with a proper sight picture, but they don’t do anything to simulate the weight and feel of a firearm, nor do they do anything in terms of recoil. The dexterity and muscle memory required for shooting is nothing like what is required for shooting. I suppose they may teach something of tactics, but even the most realistic games are trying to teach something fun, as opposed to real.

]]> By: Umm179 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-26168 Umm179 Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:14:04 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-26168 Yeah, Sam is definitely right about Zeppelin. They are notorious for guarding the use of their songs. The only recent movie I can think of that was able to use a song was school of rock, but jack black literally sent a tape to them of him on his knees, begging to use the song (the Immigrant Song). I would LOVE a led zep rock band or guitar hero though. Yeah, Sam is definitely right about Zeppelin. They are notorious for guarding the use of their songs. The only recent movie I can think of that was able to use a song was school of rock, but jack black literally sent a tape to them of him on his knees, begging to use the song (the Immigrant Song). I would LOVE a led zep rock band or guitar hero though.

]]> By: Dr. Matt Carlson http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-26089 Dr. Matt Carlson Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:51:48 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-26089 Well, I haven't played all the games out there (just Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band #1, and just got the new Guitar Hero remix thingy) but I would have to say that they seem to be mostly from the same mold. However, when I'm a realist and realize what kinds of music that I listen to, I realize that most of the pop music I like tends to not have much guitar in it. It doesn't have electric guitar in it at least... I'd like to see a lot more acoustic guitar in the mix(es)... Well, I haven’t played all the games out there (just Guitar Hero 3, Rock Band #1, and just got the new Guitar Hero remix thingy) but I would have to say that they seem to be mostly from the same mold.

However, when I’m a realist and realize what kinds of music that I listen to, I realize that most of the pop music I like tends to not have much guitar in it. It doesn’t have electric guitar in it at least… I’d like to see a lot more acoustic guitar in the mix(es)…

]]> By: GamerDad http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-26065 GamerDad Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:21 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-26065 Mike "My bias is only a larger view of music and musical talent. Rock isn’t about either, by and large " Well, this is a pretty DAMN big bias here Mike. I also agree with dhex. But can I just say that I'm impressed at how well Sam here knows his Zeppelin? Mike “My bias is only a larger view of music and musical talent. Rock isn’t about either, by and large ”

Well, this is a pretty DAMN big bias here Mike. I also agree with dhex.

But can I just say that I’m impressed at how well Sam here knows his Zeppelin?

]]> By: dhex http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25929 dhex Fri, 26 Jun 2009 20:56:33 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25929 "If Guitar Hero was a drum machine or a sampling board, I’d agree with that." why? you're just making the same silly mistake prince is, but for another topic entirely. it's basically like someone coming to you and saying "why do you waste your time playing games when you could go outside?" it's missing the point in a fundamental way, right? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73CcodfT_w as a basic introduction to the concepts involved with sampling (though most folks use softsynths now) you could do worse than mr. rock. “If Guitar Hero was a drum machine or a sampling board, I’d agree with that.”

why? you’re just making the same silly mistake prince is, but for another topic entirely. it’s basically like someone coming to you and saying “why do you waste your time playing games when you could go outside?” it’s missing the point in a fundamental way, right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z73CcodfT_w

as a basic introduction to the concepts involved with sampling (though most folks use softsynths now) you could do worse than mr. rock.

]]> By: Umm179 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25842 Umm179 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 23:52:19 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25842 Well, personally, I'm not a big guitar hero fan now, but it did get me more interested in music. I heard Knights of Cydonia a while back when i didn't really listen to music much and it made me look up Muse and now I'm into all sorts of stuff and I did pick up a real guitar because the price point of the new guitar hero is now something ridiculous like 200 dollars (i'm not sure what it is exactly, and i know that is for the band one, but you are still talking 100 for just guitar). I already played the sax though since 4th grade (I'm going into 11th this year), so like Mike (DeSanto) was saying, it is probably easier for me to get into. I still agree with Prince in some ways, but Guitar Hero (and other games like it) is still a good way to at least get kids interested in music. Well, personally, I’m not a big guitar hero fan now, but it did get me more interested in music. I heard Knights of Cydonia a while back when i didn’t really listen to music much and it made me look up Muse and now I’m into all sorts of stuff and I did pick up a real guitar because the price point of the new guitar hero is now something ridiculous like 200 dollars (i’m not sure what it is exactly, and i know that is for the band one, but you are still talking 100 for just guitar). I already played the sax though since 4th grade (I’m going into 11th this year), so like Mike (DeSanto) was saying, it is probably easier for me to get into. I still agree with Prince in some ways, but Guitar Hero (and other games like it) is still a good way to at least get kids interested in music.

]]> By: Mike Anderson http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25782 Mike Anderson Thu, 25 Jun 2009 09:41:06 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25782 Hi Sam - very nice point! That is the bottom line, isn't it - despite the Madden-esque milking, these games are just a BLAST to play, and allow an intersection of video gaming and pop music appreciation. My wife - who is not a musician by any stretch and not a gamer either, completely enjoys family time with these games! Hi Sam – very nice point! That is the bottom line, isn’t it – despite the Madden-esque milking, these games are just a BLAST to play, and allow an intersection of video gaming and pop music appreciation. My wife – who is not a musician by any stretch and not a gamer either, completely enjoys family time with these games!

]]> By: Sam Windmill http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25761 Sam Windmill Thu, 25 Jun 2009 03:51:50 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25761 Me & dad have been playing Rock Band and we just love it, it's a great family game. BTW, speaking of Zeppelin, the band always obsessively guards their master tapes from the developers, so it's always hard to get their songs on these games... Me & dad have been playing Rock Band and we just love it, it’s a great family game. BTW, speaking of Zeppelin, the band always obsessively guards their master tapes from the developers, so it’s always hard to get their songs on these games…

]]> By: Mike Anderson http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25756 Mike Anderson Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:38:36 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25756 My bias is only a larger view of music and musical talent. Rock isn't about either, by and large ... and in an action game life GH/RB, that is fine. I only have a problem when folks pretend that pop/rock = ALL of music and that pop/rock musicians are the only musicians, rather than a minority of the talent pool. My bias is only a larger view of music and musical talent. Rock isn’t about either, by and large … and in an action game life GH/RB, that is fine.

I only have a problem when folks pretend that pop/rock = ALL of music and that pop/rock musicians are the only musicians, rather than a minority of the talent pool.

]]> By: phil v http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/2009/06/23/guitar-zero-u-r-2-out-of-touch/comment-page-1/#comment-25755 phil v Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:23:31 +0000 http://www.gamingwithchildren.com/?p=2669#comment-25755 I WOULD BUY guitar hero if prince was on it!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WOULD BUY guitar hero if prince was on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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