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		<title>By: TheCelloMan101</title>
		<link>http://www.gamesanityblog.com/2008/04/04/is-there-sex-in-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-7405</link>
		<dc:creator>TheCelloMan101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2008 16:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why that mass effect scene got so much hype. I&#039;ve seen much worse in a James Bond film. Same go&#039;s for the Hot coffie mod. Kids go online and find way more explicit stuff. People seem to really target games for some reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why that mass effect scene got so much hype. I&#8217;ve seen much worse in a James Bond film. Same go&#8217;s for the Hot coffie mod. Kids go online and find way more explicit stuff. People seem to really target games for some reason.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Anderson</title>
		<link>http://www.gamesanityblog.com/2008/04/04/is-there-sex-in-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-6172</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 10:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete - I mention The Witcher content in my review and also my GOTY post here.  The Witcher is what I consider a great example of a truly &#039;mature&#039; game - but at the same time, the open-RPG part lets you play an immature womanizer if you choose.  

Games like Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur&#039;s Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, and so on have &#039;romance quests&#039; that offer at worst visualization of kissing and the implication of sex.  Gothic 2 has an actual sex scene that is *way* more tame than what you would see on an afternoon soap opera.

Indigo Prophecy has the &#039;simon&#039; mini-game for sex in Europe that was cut from the US version.  It is silly and appropriate at a M rating ... which gets back to the hypocrisy of the whole rating thing.  As an (occasionally) mature adult I can stand around with a shotgun blowing body parts off someone as blood spurts and pools in Soldier of Fortune 2, but no digital boobies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete &#8211; I mention The Witcher content in my review and also my GOTY post here.  The Witcher is what I consider a great example of a truly &#8216;mature&#8217; game &#8211; but at the same time, the open-RPG part lets you play an immature womanizer if you choose.  </p>
<p>Games like Knights of the Old Republic, Baldur&#8217;s Gate 2, Neverwinter Nights 2, and so on have &#8216;romance quests&#8217; that offer at worst visualization of kissing and the implication of sex.  Gothic 2 has an actual sex scene that is *way* more tame than what you would see on an afternoon soap opera.</p>
<p>Indigo Prophecy has the &#8216;simon&#8217; mini-game for sex in Europe that was cut from the US version.  It is silly and appropriate at a M rating &#8230; which gets back to the hypocrisy of the whole rating thing.  As an (occasionally) mature adult I can stand around with a shotgun blowing body parts off someone as blood spurts and pools in Soldier of Fortune 2, but no digital boobies!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://www.gamesanityblog.com/2008/04/04/is-there-sex-in-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-6043</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 11:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Probably because there&#039;s no sex in DMC4 and the scantily clad women are on screen for all of 45 seconds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably because there&#8217;s no sex in DMC4 and the scantily clad women are on screen for all of 45 seconds.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.gamesanityblog.com/2008/04/04/is-there-sex-in-video-games/comment-page-1/#comment-5978</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was flipping through channels today and I saw a review of DMC4 on Xplay, and yeah.... why is Mass Effect getting all the controversy but not this?  It&#039;s a lot worse.  It&#039;s all cut scenes but women are as skimpily dressed as possible and all of their moves are meant to show off their body.  I mean come on.  This game is M for 17+ when it would really only get a 12 year old to say &quot;wow, Boobies, are cool!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was flipping through channels today and I saw a review of DMC4 on Xplay, and yeah&#8230;. why is Mass Effect getting all the controversy but not this?  It&#8217;s a lot worse.  It&#8217;s all cut scenes but women are as skimpily dressed as possible and all of their moves are meant to show off their body.  I mean come on.  This game is M for 17+ when it would really only get a 12 year old to say &#8220;wow, Boobies, are cool!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: GamerDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GamerDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:33:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Pete,
Truth is, I don&#039;t actually play all 10 million games that come out each year and I didn&#039;t play The Witcher - so I didn&#039;t think I should comment on it specifically.  And I used the censored God of War video because the uncensored ones that I found required people to be registered on YouTube. This blog and site are meant for the casual/mainstream/clueless parents - though the hardcore are very welcome - so every article should be assumed to be aimed at an audience that doesn&#039;t need to know all the details.  

You do know all the details - you are informed.  So pass this article on to your spouse, parents, neighbors, grandparents with my compliments!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Pete,<br />
Truth is, I don&#8217;t actually play all 10 million games that come out each year and I didn&#8217;t play The Witcher &#8211; so I didn&#8217;t think I should comment on it specifically.  And I used the censored God of War video because the uncensored ones that I found required people to be registered on YouTube. This blog and site are meant for the casual/mainstream/clueless parents &#8211; though the hardcore are very welcome &#8211; so every article should be assumed to be aimed at an audience that doesn&#8217;t need to know all the details.  </p>
<p>You do know all the details &#8211; you are informed.  So pass this article on to your spouse, parents, neighbors, grandparents with my compliments!</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Apr 2008 21:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a bit surprised you didn&#039;t mention the game that you have as a picture and that you didn&#039;t mention The Witcher. I&#039;m more surprised that you used a censored version of the God of War video. Sort of defeats the purpose of making the game an example, no? 

Also, in the US Fahrenheit still had at least one of the sex scenes in it but the interactive one was removed, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit surprised you didn&#8217;t mention the game that you have as a picture and that you didn&#8217;t mention The Witcher. I&#8217;m more surprised that you used a censored version of the God of War video. Sort of defeats the purpose of making the game an example, no? </p>
<p>Also, in the US Fahrenheit still had at least one of the sex scenes in it but the interactive one was removed, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: Karsten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karsten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 21:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you pretty much about everything you have said about this issue so far, gamerdad. You aks if there are any more games that had sex in them ?

Didn&#039;t Fallout 2 have a feature that let you sleep around with men as part of a quest to do porno movies - if you played as female character? I remember distinctly that in BG2 you could sleep with someone, if you played a male character. The screen just went black, though, but the next morning, there would be no discussion about what you had been doing. In another Bioware game, Jade Empire, you could have sex witth two girls and a guy or two guys and girl - as part of the romance. In Jade Empire, too, you could also have a guy-guy romance. (don&#039;t know if this led to a sexual encounter, though). I think mostly you just kissed, though, in Jade Empire.

Speaking of sex scenes in videogames I think someone at either gameboomers or justadventure or adventuregamers mentioned that in the first Phantasmagoria game, you saw an unskippable rape cut scene. I don&#039;t know if this is true or not, since I never played this game, but I know that someone else mentioned that they became so upset with the game&#039;s portrayal of the rape that they had to quit playing the game. 

In the European version of Indigo Prophecy (called Fahrenheit) there also is cut scene that has sex in it. Of course, not sex like in porn movies or porn games, but sexual content like you might see in Daniel Steele movie. I make this a point of mine since I have actually seen more flesh and nudity in a Daniel Steele movie than in the now famous love (or sex) scene in Mass Effect.

I agree that if you sleep with a street hooker in GTA, you really should take a health dive, or have at least a 50/50 chance to get a disease of some sorts. As for the Hot Coffee incident as well as the re-rating of Oblivion incident, orphaned code was left behind. Some hackers 
found this and used their -ehm- skills? to get access to this code - and made it playable. 
I&#039;m not a tech guy nor game developer but as I understand it it is virtually (is this a pun?)
impossible to delete all orphaned code in games these days - although the developers do what they can to get rid of the orphaned code, of course.

I think the Danish news stations aired part of the Hot Coffee code. And I laughed aloud inside me. First, it was very grainy, so you couldn&#039;t see anything, second, it was nothing compared to what usually is aired on Danish family tv-shows that&#039;s airing in prime-time over here. As an example we once had family tv-show that showed a married female priest having sex (no genitals seen) with one of her parishoners. 

As one who has played videogames at least for the last 10-12 years, I can safely say that the video game market has grown tremendously over the past 5-6 years alone. Now every kid seems to either have a gameboy, a nintendo ds, or a ps 2 on which they play games. And some parents both have a Wii and an Xbox 360...

Phantasmagoria games are adventure games. 10 years ago, the people that played the Phantasmagoria games were just 10 years younger than they are today - would be my guess. The big influx of gamers have been to the FPS games (shooter games). 

I remember very disticntly the whole re-rating of Oblivion incident. I was very new to the Elder Scrolls community at that time, but I had to admit that I agreed pretty much with about 90% of all other gamers on that site who clearly said to some of the members that if they were looking for nude content, they should go elsewhere e.g. to sites - which in older english - would be considered of ill repute. I think this goes for gamerdad&#039;s examples as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you pretty much about everything you have said about this issue so far, gamerdad. You aks if there are any more games that had sex in them ?</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t Fallout 2 have a feature that let you sleep around with men as part of a quest to do porno movies &#8211; if you played as female character? I remember distinctly that in BG2 you could sleep with someone, if you played a male character. The screen just went black, though, but the next morning, there would be no discussion about what you had been doing. In another Bioware game, Jade Empire, you could have sex witth two girls and a guy or two guys and girl &#8211; as part of the romance. In Jade Empire, too, you could also have a guy-guy romance. (don&#8217;t know if this led to a sexual encounter, though). I think mostly you just kissed, though, in Jade Empire.</p>
<p>Speaking of sex scenes in videogames I think someone at either gameboomers or justadventure or adventuregamers mentioned that in the first Phantasmagoria game, you saw an unskippable rape cut scene. I don&#8217;t know if this is true or not, since I never played this game, but I know that someone else mentioned that they became so upset with the game&#8217;s portrayal of the rape that they had to quit playing the game. </p>
<p>In the European version of Indigo Prophecy (called Fahrenheit) there also is cut scene that has sex in it. Of course, not sex like in porn movies or porn games, but sexual content like you might see in Daniel Steele movie. I make this a point of mine since I have actually seen more flesh and nudity in a Daniel Steele movie than in the now famous love (or sex) scene in Mass Effect.</p>
<p>I agree that if you sleep with a street hooker in GTA, you really should take a health dive, or have at least a 50/50 chance to get a disease of some sorts. As for the Hot Coffee incident as well as the re-rating of Oblivion incident, orphaned code was left behind. Some hackers<br />
found this and used their -ehm- skills? to get access to this code &#8211; and made it playable.<br />
I&#8217;m not a tech guy nor game developer but as I understand it it is virtually (is this a pun?)<br />
impossible to delete all orphaned code in games these days &#8211; although the developers do what they can to get rid of the orphaned code, of course.</p>
<p>I think the Danish news stations aired part of the Hot Coffee code. And I laughed aloud inside me. First, it was very grainy, so you couldn&#8217;t see anything, second, it was nothing compared to what usually is aired on Danish family tv-shows that&#8217;s airing in prime-time over here. As an example we once had family tv-show that showed a married female priest having sex (no genitals seen) with one of her parishoners. </p>
<p>As one who has played videogames at least for the last 10-12 years, I can safely say that the video game market has grown tremendously over the past 5-6 years alone. Now every kid seems to either have a gameboy, a nintendo ds, or a ps 2 on which they play games. And some parents both have a Wii and an Xbox 360&#8230;</p>
<p>Phantasmagoria games are adventure games. 10 years ago, the people that played the Phantasmagoria games were just 10 years younger than they are today &#8211; would be my guess. The big influx of gamers have been to the FPS games (shooter games). </p>
<p>I remember very disticntly the whole re-rating of Oblivion incident. I was very new to the Elder Scrolls community at that time, but I had to admit that I agreed pretty much with about 90% of all other gamers on that site who clearly said to some of the members that if they were looking for nude content, they should go elsewhere e.g. to sites &#8211; which in older english &#8211; would be considered of ill repute. I think this goes for gamerdad&#8217;s examples as well.</p>
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		<title>By: GamerDad</title>
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		<dc:creator>GamerDad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yep Tyler, exactly right.  Those were PC games and back then that market was small, passionate, and, I think, older. But I do remember Phantasmagoria generated controversy at the time.

Sims 2 is a good example Simon.  Thanks for mentioning it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep Tyler, exactly right.  Those were PC games and back then that market was small, passionate, and, I think, older. But I do remember Phantasmagoria generated controversy at the time.</p>
<p>Sims 2 is a good example Simon.  Thanks for mentioning it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tyler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The PC game Phantassmagoria 2 has a few sex scenes in it.  However, nothing is shown unless you are able to figure out the right cheat codes within the game.

I thought that Night Trap, starring Dana Plato, had some scenes as well but I don&#039;t remember off-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The PC game Phantassmagoria 2 has a few sex scenes in it.  However, nothing is shown unless you are able to figure out the right cheat codes within the game.</p>
<p>I thought that Night Trap, starring Dana Plato, had some scenes as well but I don&#8217;t remember off-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon Windmill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon Windmill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 16:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something you&#039;ve said before - and I agree with - is that you could consider The Sims 2 to be more sexual than some of these games, with the Making Woohoo sequences.  I&#039;m trying to find a vanilla YouTube example, but it&#039;s hard to make sure no mods or hacks were used to &quot;spice things up&quot;.

Re: The Infamous Grand Theft Auto Hooker Trick, anecdotal evidence says that most of us didn&#039;t even think about killing them until those stories appeared.  Hell, it was a while before people figured out you could actually make use of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something you&#8217;ve said before &#8211; and I agree with &#8211; is that you could consider The Sims 2 to be more sexual than some of these games, with the Making Woohoo sequences.  I&#8217;m trying to find a vanilla YouTube example, but it&#8217;s hard to make sure no mods or hacks were used to &#8220;spice things up&#8221;.</p>
<p>Re: The Infamous Grand Theft Auto Hooker Trick, anecdotal evidence says that most of us didn&#8217;t even think about killing them until those stories appeared.  Hell, it was a while before people figured out you could actually make use of them.</p>
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